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I could not even hear what the hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona was saying, so I will ask him to repeat it.
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All the hon. member has to do is to speak to the petition and not refer to anything else.
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We will allow the member to go straight to the petition. If not, we will move to someone else. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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That is not a point of order, but a point of debate. The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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The hon. member knows that, even if the petition says it, he cannot mention names of current members of the House.
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The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies has the floor and I will allow him to present the petition without mention of names.
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That is exactly what I just said, that the hon. member will get to the essence.
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I asked for the essence of the petition, as is the rule for everyone. The hon. member for Prince George, please.
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Read the essence of the petition, as is the rule. Members cannot read all the articles because they will read the whole petition.
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Absolutely. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, on the same point of order.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary knows that if another member feels something is disruptive or offensive, we have to act on it. The standing order does say that we do not reflect on votes, so I would ask the hon. parliamentary secretary to retract.
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I think the hon. member was trying to see if tradition overrides the Standing Orders, if I understand correctly the point the hon. parliamentary secretary was making.
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I would remind the hon. member that referring to the presence or absence of members is against the rules.
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It is saying indirectly what members cannot say directly, so I would remind the hon. member that he cannot make those implications.
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I do not think the hon. member was implying such a thing. He was referring to influences, not necessarily to being treasonous. The hon. parliamentary secretary is rising on a point of order.
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We are not going to start a debate on this. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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I do not think the hon. member did such a thing. She said that people on both sides accuse each other of different things. I will let the hon. parliamentary secretary continue.
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The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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I am sorry, but that is a point of debate. The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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The member for Kings—Hants is rising on a point of order.
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I have already told the hon. member that is not permissible and the hon. member should not refer to the person, and should apologize for making that reference.
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The hon. member's point is well taken. Please do not refer to other members. As the hon. member knows, it is not admissible. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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May I remind the hon. member that we really just want a short summary of each petition and not the whole reading out of it. I know it is a lengthy one, but it does go into many details.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader is rising on a point of order.
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I would like the hon. member to proceed, so other members can present petitions.
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Is it agreed?
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That is definitely not up to the opposition to decide. The hon. member for Kingston and Islands, on the same point of order.
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Is that agreed?
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I thank the hon. member for all of the elements brought forth. They will be taken into consideration.
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The sponsor of the motion and the member who had submitted an identical notice have indicated to the Chair that they do not wish to proceed with Motion No. 1. Accordingly, the House will now proceed, without debate, to the putting of the question on the motion to concur in the bill at report stage.
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The question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Call in the members.
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We are not going to get into a debate on this. I will make sure this is the case in just a moment. Standing Order 18, on page 12, says, “No member may reflect upon any vote of the House, except for the purpose of moving that such vote be rescinded.” This is in the Standing Orders, and I would ask the hon. parliamentary secretary to retract.
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The hon. member was told that is not allowed by the Standing Orders. The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
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Yes, and I have reminded the hon. member that we shall not refer to votes taken in the House.
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The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon has a point of order.
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We are not going to enter into that debate. The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands has a point of order.
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While the hon. parliamentary secretary may be right in terms of traditions, I have to refer to the Standing Orders as they stand. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman rose on a point of order, and there is a standing order reflecting that we cannot refer to votes, so I have to apply it. I ask the hon. parliamentary secretary to retract. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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I would agree with the hon. member, but it is not up to me. I am not the one to change Standing Orders as we go. We have a process for that. The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands.
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Nobody raised it at the time so it passed. The hon. member for Brandon—Souris, on the same point of order, I presume.
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We are judging artistic capacity here. The hon. member for Brandon—Souris has the floor.
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It will be taken under advisement because it has been raised. The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
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I take the hon. member's point. That is exactly why I stated what I did. I invite the hon. parliamentary secretary to go back to his speech and avoid creating more dissension.
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Since we are taking his comments on the standing order under advisement, I will not be able to proceed with that, but I did invite the hon. member to retract his comments.
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The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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That is debate.
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That is debate. I invite the hon. parliamentary secretary to continue his speech.
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I have another point of order from the hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
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That is another point of debate. The hon. parliamentary secretary may continue his speech.
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The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon is rising on a point of order.
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