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Yes. I did remind the hon. parliamentary secretary of that. The hon. parliamentary secretary is making very broad comments on voting history.
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I need to interrupt the hon. member. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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I will refer to our book, the Bosc and Gagnon book on procedure. On page 590, chapter 12. It reads: It is not in order for Members to “reflect” upon (i.e., to reconsider or comment upon) votes of the House, and when this has occurred, the Chair has been quick to call attention to it. Members have also occasionally called attention to the rule. I will remind the hon. parliamentary secretary that it…
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I agree with the hon. member. There have been many examples of references to votes but today, the standing order was invoked. That is what we are dealing with. Until such time as the Chair comes back with a decision, I think we have to abide by it.
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The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon is rising on a point of order.
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The member has unlimited time and it is his right. The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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It is up to the Leader of the Opposition to decide whether to continue his intervention tomorrow when the House reconvenes. The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona.
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The hon. member for Jonquière is rising on a point of order.
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Does the hon. member have unanimous consent?
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I am sorry, but I must remind the hon. member that we cannot mention the presence of other people in the House.
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Is it agreed?
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The hon. member for Fleetwood—Port Kells has his right of reply.
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The question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the division stands deferred until Wednesday, December 13, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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The member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands.
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The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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The parliamentary secretary.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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The motion to adjourn the House is now deemed to have been adopted. Accordingly, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 2 p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). (The House adjourned at 7:05 p.m.)
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I have to give other members the opportunity to ask questions. The hon. member for Lac-Saint-Jean.
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It is indeed normal procedure, but the hon. member was referencing the specific report being brought to concurrence. Resuming debate, the hon. member for Lac-Saint-Jean has the floor.
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The hon. member for Calgary Centre is rising on a point of order.
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That is a point of debate, and I would like the hon. member for Edmonton Strathcona to try not to ascertain that.
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The member has mentioned Afghanistan and the service. The hon. member still has 15 minutes to get to the heart of the report. The hon. member for Calgary Rocky Ridge knows that we have a certain tolerance for when members get to the point of a report. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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This implies they were absent from the chamber. We cannot project indirectly what we cannot do directly. I ask the hon. member to try not to incite disruption.
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The hon. member definitely has a point. People can vote virtually or in person.
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It is true that the records of our voting are public. Members can mention that people did not vote, but not that they were not in the chamber. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Yes, it is. The hon. member—
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Absolutely, it is admissible. It is part of the rules. The hon. parliamentary secretary was referring to the two reports that caused confusion with the Chair, not with the House. The hon. parliamentary secretary is rising on the same point of order.
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The hon. member did ask a very precise question. I would remind the hon. parliamentary secretary that he did refer to specific elements of the hon. member's speech.
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I would just remind the hon. parliamentary secretary that the hon. member for Calgary Rocky Ridge was asking the hon. parliamentary secretary a specific question to the hon. member's speech, not to the motion. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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I have to give the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan an opportunity to answer.
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I have to interrupt the hon. member. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay is rising on a point of order.
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It is unparliamentary and the hon. member should know better. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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Before we resume debate, I wish to clarify for the House that the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan has moved concurrence in the 12th report of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, not the 12th report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development, which is on a very similar topic. The Chair misspoke earlier in putting the motion to the House. Re…
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for Calgary Rocky Ridge.
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I have to interrupt the hon. member. I have a point of order from the hon. member for Cumberland—Colchester.
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I do understand the point the hon. member is trying to make, and I am sure the parliamentary secretary knows full well that all budget votes are confidence votes. It is on the record now. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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I would remind the hon. member to avoid such suggestions, because we do not want to assume reasons. The hon. member for Calgary Centre.
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We cannot reference the presence or absence of members in the House, and the parliamentary secretary knows that.
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Let us start with the debate. We are not redoing that point. I will allow the hon. parliamentary secretary to complete his speech.
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He was about to start when he was interrupted. I am going to give him another chance.
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The hon. member for Cumberland—Colchester is rising on a point of order.
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We are talking about the two reports.
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We are not going to debate that any longer. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary knows he may not have seen the person, but they could have been participating virtually, as is allowed by this House. I would refrain from making such references.
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There is a point of order from the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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That is debate; it is not a point of order. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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